Converting Lawn to Veggie Garden

I've got a whack of lawn to convert to garden in the spring, and need some advice on how to best accomplish this rapidly...

I'll be able to use permaculture sheet mulch for a small part of the conversion -- maybe 200 sq. ft. -- but that will still leave about 600 sq. ft. to do in some other way.

I'm considering renting a roto-tiller to till up and turn over the top 2" or so, to destroy the turf, and then leave it sit for a week or two to die off, then single dig and/or till again to create a row garden for the first year's crop. This is more or less the approach recommended by Steve Solomon in "Gardening When It Counts: Growing Food in Hard Times".
( See: http://www.amazon.com/Gardening-When-Counts-Growing-Mother/dp/086571553X )

Any thoughts on how to approach a lawn conversion and get a crop off in the same year?

Bev Wagar's picture

easy sheet mulch

Hi Dan,

What is the limitation with the sheet mulch on the additional 600 sq ft? Why not sheet mulch the whole thing?

Using newspaper can be a hassle. Here's my solution. I went to the local farm supply place and got a roll of tobacco baling paper-- essentially, it is heavyweight brown kraft paper. Super cheap at about 20 dollars for a 50 lb roll.

Just unroll the paper over your area-- a single sheet works fine. Don't wet it, just wait for the snow or rain to do that for you. I put rocks and branches around the edges to hold it down, but once it's wet, it stays put.

Cover the paper with a layer of compost, bark mulch, wood shaving, sawdust, grass clippings or any other organic matter you can get your hands on. Even if you don't have enough for thick layer, don't worry. The point is just to hold the paper in place while it kills the grass.

This method does not produce a nutrient-compost-rich bed like the lasagna method does, but it is fast and cheap. Papering the grass gives you the organic matter and N of the decomposed grass and whatever "topping" you use. For vegetables you'll want a richer soil.

To soup-up the soil, scatter some amendments on the area before you paper it. Options are: dolomitic lime or carbonatite; seaweed meal, soy meal, alfalfa pellets, hardwood ashes, worm castings. If you are planning to turn or rototill the area in the spring you can use rock phosphate, but don't bother with this if you're just going to let it sit on the surface-- P doesn't "travel" in the soil.

Of course, if you have the money to buy these amendments, you may want to buy a load of compost and use that to cover the paper.

A note on rototilling: don't do it if you have bindweed. You will multiply your problem a thousandfold. Millionfold.

If you're worried about complaining neighbours, do look at some of the "decorative" vegetables and herbs out there: asparagus, climbing malabar spinach, "bright lights" chard, bronze fennel, red-veined dock, beautiful dark-leaved lettuces; scarlet runner beans; nasturtiums. Basil, thyme, oregano, rosemary, and many other herbs make terrific rock garden plants.

I concur that rototilling won't kill the grass. I've never used a rototiller, but I've hand-turned beds and even TWO passes with a spade sometimes won't do it. Grass is very persistent!

Instead of removing grass by hand, you could try a mechanical sod- remover. Not all the rent-all places will have them, but you can check around. Basically, it slices off the top couple of inches of sod, leaving some root mass but no green. You will have the benefit of the root OM with no regrowth.

The problem of removing sod and getting a crop in the same year is a bit tricky. You can start the grass-killing process during the first warm spell in February, but it won't start to decompose until the soil warms up in the spring and the microherd perks up again. Your soil may not be ready to feed a vegetable crop this summer, but you can help things along by using compost tea and organic water-based fertilizers such as fish and/or seaweed emulsion.

Don't heed the old warnings about compacting wet soil-- you're just walking on it, not driving a tractor on it. But if you're really worried about compaction, plan your pathways at the outset and use boards on top of the grass as temporary pathways.

Good luck! (and don't hurt your back!)

- Bev

Dan B's picture

Great suggestions! A couple of follow-up questions.

Thanks Bev, your approach seems like the ideal one for my situation, since it is low-input, low cost, and low labour – Just the ticket for gardening in the first busy year in a new home!

Do you have a preferred local source of the tobacco baling paper? What are some stores that would sell it locally?

It also occurs to me that I could get some production of veggies in the first year by building lenses of enriched soil under the paper mulch and planting squashes and other plants in the lenses, letting them sprawl and cover the paper in the first season.

Are there any unusual ammendments that you would typically add to soil in the London area? Is phosphate rock or greensand useful here, in addition to the lime and seedmeals that often go into organic fertilizers?

lucy segatti's picture

sheet mulching with cardboard from boxes

Another way to sheet mulch is to use cardboard.

I collected large plain cardboard boxes (without wax or plastic coating!) from local grocery and appliance stores. When I moved, all the packing boxes and paper when into sheet mulching.

The cardboard completely decomposed within a year. I've started sheet mulch beds in spring and fall, but if you can choose, best to start in fall so that the bed has all winter to compost.

Bev Wagar's picture

local source of tobacco

local source of tobacco baling paper. I just get it at Underhills Farm Supply on Calton Road (#45) just east of Plank Road (#19), between Port Burwell and Tillsonburg. It's a short distance from the homestead here in Vienna. If you're coming to the Seedy Saturday event on the 10th, you could drop in and get some. Otherwise, you'd need to phone around to the farm supply places in the "deep south" of Ontario where they still grow the tabaccy-weed.

re: lenses of enriched soil. Yes, you could do that. I like to let the squash vines sprawl over soil, and encourage it to put down roots at nodes along the vine. Doing this is a kind of insurance against pests and disease-- if you have to cut off a sick portion, the vine can still grow from the other sets of roots.

re: unusual amendments. You can make your own balanced mix of organic amendments using the "cookbook" on my web site (www.mygreengarden.ca) The items you mentioned (greensand and rock phosphate) are good if your soil is lacking in them, but they're single-nutrients only. If you want to get rock phosphate, make sure its the colloidal or 'soft' variety. The "hard" stuff is so molecularly tight that it takes forever to break down, even in super acid soils. Also be aware that you need to dig it down to root level-- it doesn't "travel" in soil like N does. Greensand is useful for a slowly available K, but its also very good to improve soil structure. It holds lots of moisture, and it helps bind sandy soils and loosen clay soils.

Now all we need is another long, warm spell. Ah, yes, that would be SPRING!

lamantia's picture

Converting Lawns

Last summer I removed about 200 sq ft of lawn. Basically I just used a shovel to dig down about 4 inches and tore the lawn up in strips about 6" x 18". Then put them in pile that I eventually managed to shove into my 2 composters. It took about 3-4 weeks before the composters were able to swallow the lot. It was a bit of work and you have to do it when the ground is nice and wet. Of course the more lawn you do the bigger your compost pile.

Of course the gardens were lower because of the topsoil removed. I planted anyway just added all the compost I had at the time and this summer of course I'll get it all back in spades. This method is the blood seat & tear approach but it wasn't that hard really. Just do it over a few weeks a little bit each day. I also tried to double dig the gardens as best I could.

The grass comming back was not a problem at all. However I got lots of vegetables growing from the seeds that survived in the compost. I'm trying to figure out this problem. Some I kept & others I just keep weeding.

tessa's picture

A little bit each day

That's the way I got rid of a good piece of lawn. I am glad I did; found lots of grubs under!
My question: now that I have nice vegetables growing there, how do I turn the sprinklers into irrigation by soaker hose?
I am not very familiar with fittings. Any experienced person in this area willing to help?
What tool would help with the removal of rusty old brass sprinkler heads?

lamantia's picture

Tools

You can't beat the old standbys. Try pliers, vice grips, or a plumbers wrench. Any type of tool you have that is adjustable & grips. Also if you put some oil or WD 40 on it and wait a bit, it might help. Just don't get any oil in your garden. For a safer approach I wonder if some vegetable oil would help. The only problem is if it gets too slippery then you will never be able to get a good grip.

We extended our garden a bit last fall. I tore up about 150 sq ft last fall and just piled the sod in a big heap in the middle. I seeded the pile with a bunch of red wigglers and other wonderful living things from our composter. We have been watching this pile all winter. I think I can say it has shrunk down somewhat and I suspect the grass will all be dead by the time things warm up. I will probably sift it with my homemade sifter (1/4" screen) this spring. This will remove any bits of remaining grass and I hope to just put this compost/soil back and begin planting. That's the idea anyway. I'll see how goes.

Jim

Richard Wakefield's picture

Converting lawn

This is what I did this year. Tilling the grass into the soil wont distroy it, it will just grow back. You have to remove the roots entirely. I rented a bobcat. Needed it to do the work for the greenhouse anyway, but it's great to completely strip an area as deep as you want and leave it in a pile at the end. Then later you can put the pile back once the roots die in the pile.

The only other option if you want to till is to get a blue tarp and lay it on the grass first to kill it, will take most of the summer to make sure the roots are dead. The bobcat makes the garden ready the day you complete it.

I'm expanding the garden this spring, doubling it, and will just rent the bobcat again to remove the grass and move the topsoil onto it.

A&B rentals north of Hyde Park is where I rented it from, think it was $300 for the weekend. They deliver and pick it up.

Richard
Komoka
No one is ahead of their time, just the rest of humanity is slow to catch on.

pbhymmen's picture

Hi Richard, Did you still

Hi Richard,

Did you still plan to rent the bobcat this year? I'm digging up 96 square feet (so wimpy, I know, only 8' x 12' to start). Anyways, I planned to rent a manual sod remover from Kensal over the next couple days, but thought I'd check in with you first. Would you like to split the cost/weekend? Any comments about the manual sod remover? Costs $18 for a day.

Thanks,

Peter

Dan B's picture

More on the tilling approach

Yes -- the technique makes a point of just tilling deep enough to turn over the turf, and leaving it to die on the surface. Then I think it is removed to be composted in a pile. The author does mention not going so deep that you till the seed and roots back in so they re-grow.

gusty's picture

Lawn -> veggie gaden

Consider the "lasagna gardening" option... I've tried it on small sections of grass and it works like a dream. No digging; no tilling; almost no sweat...

Eric Snyder Ottawa
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